>finally watch twin peaks. >can see every reference to it in persona 4 and numerous japanese games (2024)

I don't think you're a judeo-bolshevik (I'm probably one of the few people on here who agrees about some of your broader points about the perceptual limitations of living inside an empire), but I don't think you're right. As

>It's a shame you didn't like KRZ, it's one of the only distinclty American-feeling magical realist works we've gotten in ages.
Yeah, I should give it another chance. I got a very distinct Angela Carter vibe from it, which is not my thing, and it also rather frustrated me how incredibly short and underwhelming the first episode was, so I kinda burried it and never came back to it.
Otherwise, I actually do enjoy the mixture of americana and magical realism a lot, Twin Peaks are among my favorite shows, I fricking do love me some Bradbury and some Wallace. I'm more personally tied to the eastern-european brand of the movement - Kafka, Schulz, Kubin, Pavić, Ajvaz, Bulghakov... but America does have a certain unique history with the idea - going all the way back to Poe, it's just a shame it was often suppressed. I remember reading stories how Hawthorne constantly struggled with the sense of shame over writing fantastic stories, which to me is absolutely fricking terrible, but the history is what it is.

Yeah, I'm downloading KRZ now, I haven't had my magical realism fix in a while and this is a good opportunity. It is done, right?

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>Americans, myself included, can't produce that kind of art.
Again, there are multiple authors that straight up prove you wrong. Magical mindset is universal. It's not limited geographically. American culture - like a lot of west, was rolled over by enlightenism that encouraged shame in interest in supernatural and mystical, but it was by absolutely NO FRICKING MEANS strong enough to remove that subject matter completely. It's not a culturally alien concept, it's just a matter of being somewhat suppressed.
You just fell in dumb, brain-dead cultural divisionism that only exists to pit people against each other more than they already are. Go and read some fantastic stories by Bradbury, by Kuttner, by Poe, by Carter, and you'll see. You are objectively, wrong.

says, it has more to to with our ever increasing emphasis on rationality above all else. Fantasy is seen as childish, instead of something that humans of all ages have enjoyed for time immemorial. Though to your point, we do mostly get American magical realism these days from artists in disadvantaged communities who benefit less from the American hegemony.

>It's a shame you didn't like KRZ, it's one of the only distinclty American-feeling magical realist works we've gotten in ages.
Yeah, I should give it another chance. I got a very distinct Angela Carter vibe from it, which is not my thing, and it also rather frustrated me how incredibly short and underwhelming the first episode was, so I kinda burried it and never came back to it.
Otherwise, I actually do enjoy the mixture of americana and magical realism a lot, Twin Peaks are among my favorite shows, I fricking do love me some Bradbury and some Wallace. I'm more personally tied to the eastern-european brand of the movement - Kafka, Schulz, Kubin, Pavić, Ajvaz, Bulghakov... but America does have a certain unique history with the idea - going all the way back to Poe, it's just a shame it was often suppressed. I remember reading stories how Hawthorne constantly struggled with the sense of shame over writing fantastic stories, which to me is absolutely fricking terrible, but the history is what it is.

Yeah, I'm downloading KRZ now, I haven't had my magical realism fix in a while and this is a good opportunity. It is done, right?

[...]
>Americans, myself included, can't produce that kind of art.
Again, there are multiple authors that straight up prove you wrong. Magical mindset is universal. It's not limited geographically. American culture - like a lot of west, was rolled over by enlightenism that encouraged shame in interest in supernatural and mystical, but it was by absolutely NO FRICKING MEANS strong enough to remove that subject matter completely. It's not a culturally alien concept, it's just a matter of being somewhat suppressed.
You just fell in dumb, brain-dead cultural divisionism that only exists to pit people against each other more than they already are. Go and read some fantastic stories by Bradbury, by Kuttner, by Poe, by Carter, and you'll see. You are objectively, wrong.

Yeah it's done, hope you enjoy it. It's a really great game, it's stuck with me for years now. The first act isn't the strongest, the meat of the game is in the middle.

twin peaks is surrealism
magical realism.. it's funny i thoguht about this the other day, of all the two books ive read of ggm, one of them being one hundread years and the other being love in the time of cholera, ive never come across anything that could be considered magical
i remember a few things that could be construed as mystical but really it's all just chocked up to similie like "the time passed by like a river" or something like that
there's nothing magical about his books but they are still compelling once one gets past the introductory chapter(s)

>two books ive read of ggm, one of them being one hundread years and the other being love in the time of cholera, ive never come across anything that could be considered magical
Remedios being so beautiful that she's taken to heaven by angels as she does the laundry doesn't strike you as magical? Or the ghosts that haunt the family? Or the book that has the future written in it?
Also TP is mostly surrealism but the black lodge sh*t is very magical realist.

>finally watch twin peaks. >can see every reference to it in persona 4 and numerous japanese games (1)

Great post. It's sad that this subgenre is so underlooked in gaming when it is such a wild ride and takes you places that are beyond anything else. I was a book nut as a kid but the only author in my local library I genuinely loved was Luis Borges, because the juxtaposition of a man who was blind yet was so vividly creative and cultured was like encountering a character in itself.

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>I feel like I'm missing something.
I used to feel like that until I realized that TV has barely any content like it. Lynch is a very personal and empathetic director, and it helps to connect with these characters. Give the films a watch anon. Elephant Man (10/10 acting from Hurt and Hopkins), Eraserhead and Lost Highway are good too.

Oh yeah, I love Lynch's films. The Return, FWWM, and Inland Empire are my last Lynchs left to watch. Probably gonna watch Inland tonight.

>finally watch twin peaks. >can see every reference to it in persona 4 and numerous japanese games (2024)
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